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Dr. Richard Leakey: The whole story is about change.
We are very lucky that the earth's history is recorded in
fossilized remains. And we can see the changes. Unfortunately, there will always be gaps
in our knowledge, but there is no doubt that we and everything living today
has evolved.
Question: If consciousness is a function of an evolving brain, is there
evidence as to when it might have first occured?
Dr. Richard Leakey: Conciousness is being self-aware. What we are beginning to see is
that there is a degreee of self-awareness in other species. The
chimpanzee is an example. They seem to be aware of their individual existence. If that is
true, we can safely assume that our ancestors 4 million years ago were
self-aware, or conscious.
Question: Was your path in life most influenced by your parents' cotributions
or was this a field you believe would have been found regardless? Did
your studies come naturally to you?
Dr. Richard Leakey: In hindsight it's clear that my parents both influenced me
enormously. Professionaly they gave me an enormous starting advantage.
My career has recently included conservation and politics and it's
difficult to ascribe that directly to parental influence.
Question: Has the terrorist bombing of the American Embassy affected your
work in Kenya significantly?
Dr. Richard Leakey: No, the tragedy is clearly frightening to people wishing to visit
here, but it seems to be a one time event. There is no ongoing fear of
terrorism in this part of the world. By comparison to other regions we are very
quiet and safe.
Question: What would you say Kenya's most pressing environmental problem is?
Dr. Richard Leakey: The greatest problem we face is the growing number of people living
in poverty. The related sense of hopelessness has to be impacting on every part
of environmental management.
Question: What is your impression of groups, such as exist in the US, that
deny evolution in favor of the Biblical theory of creation?
Dr. Richard Leakey: I have been raised to believe in freedom of thought and speech. If
a minority wishes to accept that position it's their right. What I fear is that this
minority may seem to be larger than it truly is. What is strange is that there are still
people who believe the world is not a globe.
Question: If we take our family on one of the Wildlife Safari Trips to Kenya
from the US are we contributing to the problem, or to the solution?
Dr. Richard Leakey: By coming you are not contributing to a problem because the numbers
of tourists are so few. We do have some instances of too many people in one place but this
can be resolved by better management, not by discouraging visits to Kenya.
Question: What first prompted you to abandon safari work and go into
anthropology?
Dr. Richard Leakey: I found looking after people on a day-to-day basis boring. I
enjoyed the wild places.
Question: How do you feel about the issues between the AmerIndian and the
state of Washington in relation to Kenniwick Man found in the Columbia Basin?
Dr. Richard Leakey: That's complicated for a non-American, but I do believe the study of
human history remains important and should not be banned. We should ensure that
any archaeological studies are conducted with sensitivity and respect.
Reburying relics, in my view, does not help anyone go anywhere.
Question: What about your political activities? How are relations with
President Moi now?
Dr. Richard Leakey: I have gone back to the management of Kenya's wildlife service and will
concentrrate on conservation for the next three years. The next election is in 2002, closer to then I will make the decision to re-enter politics or do something else.
Timehost: I know you've got to run now, Dr. Leakey, thanks for joining us
today.
Dr. Richard Leakey: Thank you.
TIME 100: Scientists & Thinkers